He-Man is what screwed us?

[EvilMan_89]

I heard that Tales of Eternia was renamed to be Tales of Destiny 2 becuz the word Eternia was copyrighted from He-Man so they renamed it. But....the REAL tales of Destiny 2 couldn't release becuz there was already a TOD2 in America. and then they couldnt' release TOD Remake becuz it has some cameos from TOD2 and changes to fit better with it. so He-Man screwed the US gamers

[Kajitani-Eizan]

Adam Hershel in my sig says you hurt his feelings.

 

[Cless Aileron]

I find that a faulty argument.  In all honesty, if it was He-man, why the heck is Tales of Eternia's world still called Eternia?  Honestly, I'd like to know if that was the case.  Besides, I doubt Eternia is a trademarked term.

[Cless]

it actually is

I'm not entirely sure if that disallowed Namco from using the original title though.

You could also make the argument that they wanted to establish the series here under the Tales of Destiny moniker. There is evidence, too: if you look at Tales of Phantasia's entry, you'll see that it had a prior registration number. That registration number is the same as Tales of Destiny's. This leads me to believe Namco USA was definitely considering a US ToP PSX release and would market it as a sequel to Destiny, but then skipped it in favor of Eternia (latest and greatest and all that).

After those "failures", they brought over Symphonia and abandoned the Destiny name to give the series a fresh start. Unfortunately, that game's runaway success seems to have created a side-effect of a belief that US gamers only want 3D games on consoles. And yet, none of the 3D games that followed had any better sales than the original US PSX releases. I hear that radiant mythology bombed harder than anything else before it...

[EvilMan_89]

what website is that anyways Cless?

[Datschge]

That's the US Patent and Trademark Office's database obviously. There you can look up existing US patents and trademarks obviously.

[Cless Aileron]

it actually is

I'm not entirely sure if that disallowed Namco from using the original title though.

You could also make the argument that they wanted to establish the series here under the Tales of Destiny moniker. There is evidence, too: if you look at Tales of Phantasia's entry, you'll see that it had a prior registration number. That registration number is the same as Tales of Destiny's. This leads me to believe Namco USA was definitely considering a US ToP PSX release and would market it as a sequel to Destiny, but then skipped it in favor of Eternia (latest and greatest and all that).

After those "failures", they brought over Symphonia and abandoned the Destiny name to give the series a fresh start. Unfortunately, that game's runaway success seems to have created a side-effect of a belief that US gamers only want 3D games on consoles. And yet, none of the 3D games that followed had any better sales than the original US PSX releases. I hear that radiant mythology bombed harder than anything else before it...

That certainly helped cleared it up.  Like I said, I thought the term Eternia was something that was not legally exclusive to He-Man, hence why I always did not take the He-Man argument with a serious mind.  It really helped.  Even then, I still did not think that was the case with the renaming anyway.

I actually did hear about that second bit.  I remember reading an interview on IGN regarding the release of Tales of Eternia in North America.  If I remember correctly, it was said they were considering localizing Tales of Phantasia PS1 but then heard about Tales of Eternia and went with that instead.  While I'm at it, I also remember hearing that the name change was also done to show the relation to the series.

Yeah, I haven't done any of my own digging in the US Patent and Trademark Office since I didn't browse around enough there.

Oh yeah, Kaji.  That He-Man/Tales of Eternia spoof sig is still priceless.

[Mura]

Adam Hershel in my sig says you hurt his feelings.

 

I lol'd.

Hahahaha, oh man. That was priceless.