General Tales of Destiny (PS2) Discussion

[Leroy]

Actually, I love Sudoku.

Oh, and my real copy arrived today! Woo!

[Zais]

I was wondering,how much of the story's been changed? Would I be able to enjoy by using the PS1 English version as a translation guide?

[Leroy]

I was wondering,how much of the story's been changed? Would I be able to enjoy by using the PS1 English version as a translation guide?

As a translation guide, probably not. The story hasn't actually changed.. but it's been rewritten and a lot has been greatly expanded. Generally though, if you've played and are familiar with the PS1 version and want to jump into this for the new gameplay, you'll do fine.

[Leroy]

As for me, I managed to get a good session going yesterday after an otherwise crowded weekend. I've just crossed the halfway mark (beating Lydon) at 20 hours with my characters at level 40! This is EASILY taking over Eternia as my favorite Tales game. The gameplay in this one is maddeningly awesome. I simply love everything about this game.

[Zais]

Aw well guess it's time to study from my Japanese books while waiting for my game to arrive in the mail.

[chingi1]

Well, duh it has Chelsea in it. What more can you ask for?

[Leroy]

I got a surprise half-day at work yesterday and managed to get a good run in (instead of going Christmas shopping like I should have). I just completed Leon's fate.. and boy did they ham that up nice and sloppy.. oh well, I figured they would.

On a sort-of related note, a friend and I were discussing how ridiculously stupid Aries' death was in Final Fantasy VII, to die from a little butter knife wound after being stomped on by giant robots, shot at consistently by machine guns and clawed and chomped at by huge bestial monsters, not to mentioned being revived several times by items and magic.. it always seemed incredibly retarded to me. Anyway, looking at the FMV for what happens in Tales of Destiny, I have to say.. even considering the game logic (Life Bottles, etc.), he's pretty screwed. It's much more believable here, in my opinion.

[Kiko]

Well, duh it has Chelsea in it. What more can you ask for?

A better voice, her hi-ougi voice clips hurt my ears.. I didn't find her voice anywhere near squeeky in the original, but now nearly 10 years later it's like ow <_<;. Regardless though, the VA's did pretty good for reprising their old roles.

And well, I always figured that story deaths are actually deaths, where as being killed in a battle is just a character being knocked unconscious. It makes it all make much more sense unless the game specifies otherwise (Fire Emblem).

[Leroy]

Here's the first draft of a Jewel/Material Guide I composed. Often when I'm playing Japanese RPGs I'll grab an item list or something from a Japanese guide and run it through Google to give me at least an idea of things I can't read or figure out on my own.. I figured I'd submit this to GameFAQs so I added in all the introduction and instructional stuff (usually I just make an Excel spreadsheet for my personal use). Hopefully somebody else will find it useful.

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     Tales of Destiny PS2
     Material/Jewel Guide
         Version 1.00
Created By: Leroy (PixyJunket)
 Copyright 2006 Larry Capasso
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This guide covers jewel creation for the PS2 remix of Tales of Destiny. It is
primarily designed as a brief explanation of the refining process along with
charts of the various materials and what effects they have when refined into
jewels. If Bandai-Namco surprises us with an English release, this guide will
be useless as the material/jewel effects are listed in their descriptions!

The original material/jewel list was taken from the Japanese site @WIKI, so I'd
like to give them full credit for their work on that.

http://www16.atwiki.jp/tod_remake/

Any suggestions or corrections can be sent to my gmail address: pixyjunket.

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Version History
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12/19/06 - 1.00 - First Version!

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00. Boring, but Necessary
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This guide may be not be reproduced under any circumstances except for
personal, private use. It may not be placed on any web site or otherwise
distributed publicly without advance written permission. Use of this guide on
any other web site or as a part of any public display is strictly prohibited,
and a violation of copyright. All trademarks and copyrights contained in this
document are owned by their respective trademark and copyright holders.

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01. Jewel Creation
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Jewels are created though the "Reraizu" [リライズ] menu option. That in itself
is a bit of Engrish, so I'll just refer to it as Refine from here on. Refining,
if you don't already know, allows you to use Lens to upgrade various items. A
"Jewel" [宝石] is created by refining raw "Material" [マテリアル]. Once a jewel
is created, it can be equipped. Each character can equip two jewels. Jewels can
then be further refined to enhance or change a secondary attribute. The
secondary attribute is simply a numeric increase to any of the base stats
(attack, defense, etc.). Each base stat is represented by a color (chart
below). When you first refine a material, you can choose from red, blue,
yellow and green. You will be presented with different color choices on each
subsequent refine based on the current color of the jewel.

For example, a Red Crsytal Poison+1 [赤晶ポイズン＋１] prevents poison status
as well as giving a +10 bonus to that character's attack stat.

Mary as a Support Character will randomly upgrade the levels of already created
jewels (equipped or not). Their color will remain the same through this method.

I'll also provide a step-by-step "How To" in case anyone needs it:

1. Choose Refine [リライズ] from the main menu.
2. Choose a Poison Material [ポイズンマテリアル] from your material list (they
   will be listed under the "gel/gummi" icon).
3. Choose Red Crystal Poison+1 [赤晶ポイズン＋１] from the four options. The
   Lens required will be listed in the text box below along with a "party
   level" requirement (if not exceeded). Basically, if you see a red number in
   the text box, you'll need to level up that many times.
4. Voila! You can now equip it or further refine this jewel through the same
   process by choosing this jewel from the Refine menu instead of the material.

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Jewel Color Chart
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[赤晶] Red Crystal    = [攻撃力]   Attack
[青晶] Blue Crystal   = [防御力]   Defense
[黄晶] Yellow Crystal = [術攻撃力] Magic Attack
[緑晶] Green Crystal  = [術防御力] Magic Defense
[白晶] White Crystal  = [体力]     Physical Strength
[黒晶] Black Crystal  = [命中率]   Hit Rate
[紫晶] Purple Crystal = [集中力]   Concentration
[橙晶] Orange Crystal = [回避率]   Evade Rate

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Jewel Level Chart
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(Jewel Level) = (Stat Bonus)

+1 = +10
+2 = +16
+3 = +23
+4 = +31
+5 = +40
+6 = +50
+7 = +61
+8 = +73

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02. Material/Jewel List
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Abnormal Status Prevention
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[ポイズン - Poison]
Prevents Poison status.

[スリープ - Sleep]
Prevents Sleep status.

[ストーン - Stone]
Prevents Stone status.

[ウエイスト - Waste]
Prevents Waste status.

[パラライ - Paralyze]
Prevents Paralyze status.

[シール - Seal]
Prevents Seal status.

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Attribute Tolerance
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[フレア - Flare]
Fire damage is reduced by half.

[アクア - Aqua]
Water damage is reduced by half.

[ゲイル - Gale]
Wind damage is reduced by half.

[アース - Earth]
Earth damage is reduced by half.

[ライト - Light]
Light damage is reduced by half.

[ダーク - Dark]
Dark damage is reduced by half.

[スラッシュ - Slash]
Slash damage is reduced by half.
(damage from sharp sources)

[ブロウ - Blow]
Blow damage is reduced by half.
(damage from blunt sources)

[ショット - Shot]
Shot damage is reduced by half.
(damage from projectile sources)

[ソニック - Sonic]
Sonic damage is reduced by half.
(damage from aural sources)

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Charge Effects
(down+square to activate)
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[アタック - Attack]
Charge: Attack is temporarily increased.

[マインド - Mind]
Charge: Magic Attack is temporarily increased.

[プロテクト - Protect]
Charge: Defense is temporarily increased.

[レジスト - Resist]
Charge: Magic Defense is temporarily increased.

[リカバー - Recover]
Charge: Abnormal status is removed.

[チェイン - Chain]
Charge: CC increases by 1.

[フラッシュ - Flash]
Charge: Flash Guard is performed.

[ブラスト - Blast]
Charge: Blast Gauge is increased.

[サプライ - Supply]
Charge: CC of allies is increased.

[キュア - Cure]
Charge: HP is restored.

[フィジカル - Physical]
Charge: Break through enemy defense.

[ディスペル - Dispel]
Charge: Temporarily prevent abnormal status effects.

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CC Effects
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[ライズ - Rise]
Minimum CC is increased by 1.

[エクシード - Exceed]
Maximum CC is increased by 1.

[ゼクシード - Succeed]
Maximum CC is increased by 2.

[バリアブル - Valuable]
Minimum and maximum CC are increased by 1.

[フラット - Flat]
CC is locked to the average of min/max CC.
(example: min=3, max=7, this will lock CC to 5)

[チェイサー - Chaser]
CC is increased by 1 for each critical hit.

[フィックス - Fix]
CC is locked to 15.

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Enemy Defeated Effects
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[ゲイン - Gain]
HP is restored for each enemy defeated.

[ラピッド - Rapid]
CC is increased by 2 for each enemy defeated.

[テンション - Tension]
Blast Gauge is increased for each enemy defeated.

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Automatic Effects
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[ホーリィ - Holy]
HP is gradually restored.

[アドバンス - Advance]
Defense is increased during an Aiming Dash.

[ストリクト - Strict]
CC is increased by 2 during a Flash Guard.

[アブソーブ - Absorb]
HP is restored during a Flash Guard.

[デモンズ - Demon]
Experience received is doubled.
Critical hits will instantly kill equipped character.

[エッジ - Edge]
Damage dealt is doubled.
All damage received is counted as critical hits.

[Zais]

My copy of ToDR arrived in the mail yesterday. Through I have to wait til Christmas to play.

[Leroy]

I'm working on some Food Charts too.. I'll post them here when I'm done.. or done enough to be usable.

[Leroy]

Okay, here's the draft of the Food Guide.. it's just the translations at the moment but it's something to work with. The food names with ?s on them I'm not really sure about the name translation. The Conditions and Effects are still being worked on to be worded better.

[おにぎり] Rice Ball
After Battle: HP of Party ≤ 80%
10%

[サンドイッチ] Sandwich
After Battle: HP of Party ≤ 70%
5-10%

[ハンバーガー] Hamburger
After Battle: HP of Party ≤ 60%
10-20%

[ホットドッグ] Hot Dog
After Battle: HP of Party ≤ 50%
10-30%

[ブリトー] Burrito
HP of Party ≤ 30%
60%

[ケバブ] Kebab
HP of Party ≤ 40%
10-50%

[いなり寿司] Inari Sushi
After Battle: HP of any member ≤ 65%
10-25%

[一夜漬け] Pickled Greens
After Battle: HP of any member ≤ 40%
40-50%

[お茶漬け] Boiled Rice in Tea
HP of any member ≤ 25%
50-75% - Blast Gauge +25

[チャーハン] Fried Rice
During Battle: HP of Party ≤ 70%
10%

[オムライス] Rice Omelette
During Battle: HP of Party ≤ 60%
1-20%

[カレーライス] Curry and Rice
During Battle: HP of Party ≤ 45%
1-40%

[オムハヤシ] Omhash (?)
During Battle: HP of Party ≤ 55%
30%

[パエリア] Paella
During Battle: HP of Party ≤ 35%
30-60%

[オリエンタルライス] Oriental Rice
During Battle: HP of Party ≤ 20%
1-60%

[マフィン] Muffin
During Battle: HP of any members ≤ 40%
10-20%

[キムチ] Kimchi
During Battle: HP of any members ≤ 30%
20-45%

[肉まん] Steamed Meat Bun
During Battle: HP of any members ≤ 15%
60-75% - Blast Gauge +25

[ロコモコ] Loco Moco (?)
During Battle: Any member is KO'd
10-20% - Restores KO'd Member

[牛丼] Beef Bowl
After Battle: Any member is KO'd
20-40% - Restores KO'd Member

[親子丼] Chicken and Egg Bowl
During Battle: Any member is KO'd
50-70% - Restores KO'd Member

[海鮮丼] Seafood Bowl
During Battle: Any member is KO'd
100% - Restores KO'd Member

[クラムチャウダー] Clam Chowder
During Battle: Stone Status
5-15% - Stone Protection

[リゾット] Risotto
During Battle: Weak Status
5-15% - Weak Protection

[ビーフストロガノフ] Beef Stroganoff
During Battle: Poison Status
5-15% - Poison Protection

[ミートソース] Meat Sauce
During Battle: Sleep Status
5-15% - Sleep Protection

[グラタン] Gratin
During Battle: Paralyze Status
5-15% - Paralyze Protection

[グラスパ] Grasper (?)
During Battle: Seal Status
5-15% - Seal Protection

[ハンバーグ] Hamburg Steak
During Battle: Take Earth Damage
5-15% - Earth Protection

[ステーキ] Steak
During Battle: Take Wind Damage
5-15% - Wind Protection

[お好み焼き] Okonomiyaki
During Battle: Take Fire Damage
5-15% - Fire Protection

[すき焼き] Sukiyaki
During Battle: Take Water Damage
5-15% - Water Protection

[お刺身] Sashimi
During Battle: Take Light Damage
5-15% - Light Protection

[舟盛り] Sushi Boat
During Battle: Take Dark Damage
5-15% - Dark Protection

[フルーツパフェ] Fruit Parfait
5 Seconds from Start of Battle
10-20%

[フルーツチーズ] Fruit with Cheese
30 Seconds from Start of Battle
40-60%

[フルーツとうふ] Fruit Tofu
120 Seconds from Start of Battle
100% - Blast Gauge +50

[肉鍋] Meat Pot
During Battle: Use an Item
50-100% - Minimum CC+1

[魚鍋] Fish Pot
During Battle: Use an Item
50-100% - Maximum CC+1

[まんぼうの串焼き] Dried Persimmons (?)
During Battle: Perform a 25 Hit Combo
15-30%

[みそおでん] Miso Oden
During Battle: Perform a 50 Hit Combo
30-60% - Blast Gauge +25

[マーボーカレー] Mabo Curry
During Battle: Perform a 100 Hit Combo
100% - Blast Gauge +50

[カチカチおにぎり] Frozen Rice Ball (?)
Whenever I perform two times of battles
1-5%

[パサパサンドイッチ] (?)
During Battle: Any member is KO'd
1-25% - Blast Gauge +25

[圧縮ハンバーガー] Compressed Hamburger
During Battle: Any member is KO'd
1-50% - Blast Gauge +50

[炭ドッグ] Charcoal Dog
During Battle: Any member is KO'd
1-100% - Recovery impossible of a battle

[しなしなブリトー] Shina Shina Burrito (?)
During Battle: HP of Party ≤ 25%
1-10% - Minimum CC+1

[半生ケバブ] Half-Life Kebab (?)
During Battle: HP of Party ≤ 25%
1-10% - Maximum CC+1

[闇丼] Dark Bowl
An HP total of all the members ≤ 10%
1-100% - Recovery impossible of a battle

[闇鍋] Dark Pot
During Battle: HP of Party ≤ 10%
1-100% - Recovery impossible of a battle

[Leroy]

Oh, in case you cound't figure it out, the format (as it is now) is:

Food Name
Condition to Trigger
Effects

[Leroy]

Is there a reason there aren't any skits with Igtenos? I just finished Coudius and I can't recall a single one yet. It just seemed odd since the other Swordians are so chatty.

[supersonic1453]

Igtenos is kinda like Garr isn't he?  Would you want to see a skit with two Garrs talking?  Does Garr even talk that much?

[Goshi]

Shouldn't we refer to him as Woodrow in this thread?