Boredom + Tales of Destiny PS1 = side project

[Kogahazan]

I don't think anyone would mind too much if you don't since I'm pretty sure you can change their names anyway...

I remember changing Karyl -> Johnny and Bruiser -> Kongman when playing. It's fine with Johnny but it's weird with Kongman because during the ending, for some reason it reverted back to Bruiser when he was talking. I'll have to check again later, it was weird. Also it looks a bit funky in the status screen when it says Kongman Khang.

[Cless]

I remember changing Karyl -> Johnny and Bruiser -> Kongman when playing. It's fine with Johnny but it's weird with Kongman because during the ending, for some reason it reverted back to Bruiser when he was talking. I'll have to check again later, it was weird. Also it looks a bit funky in the status screen when it says Kongman Khang.

Sounds to me like they inserted the word "Bruiser" and not the variable pointing to his entered name.

Reminds me... what other odd things and censorship are in the US game? What I know of...

- FATE password crap
- (now) Bruiser name not tied to name variable in ending
- "Green Gel". Seriously, the most pointless change in the game.
- Boobies on the statues in Straylize Temple (ZOMG the true motivation of this project! ...or not)

Re: Character names. I was thinking of possibly reverting Johnny and Woodrow's default names (and fixing Lilith as it's entered as Lilis). Mighty vs. Bruiser reminds me of the whole Mash vs. Sabin thing, in where the original sounds really cheesy in English. Bruiser IMO was a fine re-imagining. Bruiser Kongman? In a way it doesn't really have the same ring, but...

Anyway, on to attempt #2 to make a menu text dumper...

[justin3009]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djXKyQSaCn8 - Just a video of codes in action.

[Kajitani-Eizan]

another option is to see if you can rearrange it so kongman is the variable, and mighty is the set name. kind of like how it used to be fujibayashi suzu in ToP, where suzu is the rename-able part. so his naming screen would look like: "Mighty ________", and he would be referred to as Kongman in dialogue and whatnot.

[Cless]

Text dumper, although incredibly super slow, works!

Preliminary stuff, not finished...


It's a granny smith for now.

[Kogahazan]

Yeah, I went back to check. In the part after the credits, Johnny is still renamed as such but Kongman went back to Khang (I said Bruiser before, my bad). I don't know if it will happen to the other characters so maybe you could check them too. It would sort of be weird if it was just Khang and nobody else.

So it's weird, the status screen says Kongman Khang on my game. I don't know why they suddenly decided to use Khang in the ending, that would mean it doesn't matter what you rename him, yet they still use your name everywhere else in the game he's talking.

[Cless]

Spell names updated! And no abbreviating. Pow Pow Hammer BARELY clears (thank goodness, because they've already maxed the available screen space for spell names)




And for the heck of it, this is what it used to look like...

[Cless]

Stahn's updated techs are coming together... not finished.



What is Satsugekibukouken/Assassin in radiant mythology? Was it changed to Fatal Fury (The name Farah's version was called), or something else? Or is it still Assassin? Or is it even in the game?

[Cless]

Another update on Stahn's techs...



(Never mind that Infernal Torrent overflows onto the border, that's a cosmetic hack away)

I've been trying to be very careful about naming moves that don't have known modern equivalents:

Tempest (Spin Slash) - This move name has been used twice in US games with very slightly differing kanji. However this move is practically identical in effect to those. I think of this as similar to the Sword Rain issue in ToP GBA-- the Japanese move name there is the same as what other US games call "Sword Rain: Alpha", yet the effect is the basically identical to the Sword Rain in those games.

Dragon Wrath (Dragon Blade) - The original name was fine-ish, but paying close to attention to the last two kanji, I found that one of Guy's moves was called Wyrm Wrath, which ended with the same two. So I went with that. On top of that, a wyrm is a kind of dragon as well. And finally, the move is kinda violent in nature.

Dragon Flight (Dragon Toss) - This was basically ToD's version of "Lunge"... i.e. the name of the move was completely missing the point.

Flare Beast (Hellfire) - I actually liked Hellfire as-is. However, the kanji in this was identical to that of Guy's Thunder Beast move aside from the kanji describing its element. So thus, Flare Beast is born.

Epic Phoenix (Phoenix) - With Rising Phoenix already being part of the move set, this just couldn't stay as-is. The description describes becoming large and executing "Spin Flare" (aka Rising Phoenix). The move actually reminds me of Rid's Burning Phoenix, but the kanji are very different for both. So, to convey the largeness, I added in Epic. I thought about using "Mega" or "Super" instead of Epic, but those sounded kind of cheesy in this context.

Comments on these names are welcome, and I still need info on satsugeki.

[justin3009]

Ack. I was working on Johnny and he's going to have to wait awhile. All the items you can equip on him are completely setup differently ._.

Well that's saddening. You cannot give Chelsea a Swordian. If you try to, the battles won't work =[

Ugh. You can't give Kongman a Swordian Either.

[Carnivol]

Yeah, I went back to check. In the part after the credits, Johnny is still renamed as such but Kongman went back to Khang (I said Bruiser before, my bad). I don't know if it will happen to the other characters so maybe you could check them too. It would sort of be weird if it was just Khang and nobody else.

Without having seen this in action myself, I'd say that if you want to start somewhere, try the optional character(s) and see what happens. (Though, all in all, I guess Bruiser is the only "real" optional character)

[gyozilla]

-The name Woodrow is originally a surname. (Which ofcourse would make Kelvin Woodrow sounds more "correct" than Woodrow Kelvin. However, TRIVIA seems like the US actually had a president Woody at some point in time. Thanks, Google! You just tought me that Woodrow Kelvin is a WOODY KELVIN)

I guess Kelvin Woodrow is weird too, his name being the kind that's got 2 last names, like Fox Mulder or something. I think part of the reason they changed Woodrow and Johnny is cause they're not exactly the most manly names, in modern US anyway, and sounds kind of "off" in RPGs.

About Bruiser Khang and sorta touching on what Kaji said, he's almost always referred to by his last name afaik. So Mighty doesn't matter much, he's called Kongman/Khang most of the time, like Mulder instead of Fox to use the same example.

Satsugeki is Final Fury in RM, I believe. I actually love Assassin and Hellfire over the super highfalutin stuffy double word names of late (kinda like Presea's move names that don't really describe anything). Maybe Hellfire Beast?

Epic Phoenix, the kanji parts has wing and king/emperor, so I might suggest King Phoenix, God Phoenix, God Wing, Phoenix Overlord. (heh, God Phoenix reminds of Gatchaman's plane that can also, appropriately, turn into a phoenix). It's the most powerful phoenix anything move in the game (and all of Tales, I believe?)

[Kajitani-Eizan]

as mentioned elsewhere, Dragon Blade is Dragon Swarm in ToE. not sure if you want to go with that, though. otherwise, it's souryuu rengazan (連牙斬), which has the same last three kanji as majin rengazan (Demonic Chaos). the main reasons i'd suggest being careful with using guy's ryuuko metsugazan (Wyrm Wrath) as a base are that a) it's the same name as reid's Dragon Demon Chaos, and b) kyle's souryuu metsugazan is based on said move, which would lead to a naming issue down the road.

Searing Gate is a typo, should be Searing Gale

satsugeki is Final Fury in TotA, at least. somewhat lame, though.

i thought of Regal Phoenix for kouou tenshouyoku, following the Rising/Razing/R____ Phoenix trend.

[justin3009]

Satsugeki is Final Fury in ToTa RM TOE and apparently was going to be named that in Tales of Symphonia as well.

[Crashline]

Spell names updated! And no abbreviating. Pow Pow Hammer BARELY clears (thank goodness, because they've already maxed the available screen space for spell names)

Fearful Flare should be changed to Fearsome Flare, or kept as Fear Flare. Fearful is just plain wrong.

[Kajitani-Eizan]

fear·ful      /ˈfɪərfəl/
1.   causing or apt to cause fear; frightening: a fearful apparition.

it's fine

additionally, ToP GBA had Extension, though that has fairly little credence.