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Kevassa
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Kore ga watashi no.... SATSUGEKI BUKOUKEN!
An "All hi ougi video" project
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August 11, 2008, 12:12:52 AM »
Ive been planning to do one since long time ago, but I need some time to record every hi ougi.
I was thinking maybe you could help me build a complete list of hi ougis of main entrances? I wont record the spin offs, though I will try to get the ToS:Kor“s.
This is what I have you can add/remove as you think that fits, I think that it is incomplete, so if anyone would help...
~Player Hi ougis ~
[ToP PSX] Cless~ Meikou Zanshouken
Mint~ Time Stop
Arche~ Big Bang
Klarth~ Pluto - Origin
Suzu~ Jiraiya
[ToD PSX] Stahn~ Satsugeki Bukouken - Kuou Tenshouyouku
Rutee~ Bloody Rose
Lion~ Marian
Philia~ Divine Power - Big Bang
Woodrow~ Rekkujin
Johnny~ Miracle voice
Kongman~ Bolt Thrust
Mary~ ZAN!
Chelsea~ Shiten no metsaku (Spelling?)
Lilith ~Thunder Sword
[ToE]
Rid ~Fuujin Fubatsatsu- Hiou Tsetsuenshou - Kyoukouheki -
Ryuko Metsugazan - Kyoukouken - Kyoukouhha
Farah~ Maximum Burst - Flame Dance (dont know the japanese names)
Meredy~ Gnome - Celsius - Volt - Destiny - Super Indignation -
Maxwell+Extension - Shooting Star Arche
Keel~ Undine - Sylph - Efreet- Sekundes - Super Indignation
Chat~ Eternal throw
Fog ~ Elemental Master
[ToD2]
Kyle~ Resshou Souhajin - Soryuu Metsugazan
- Zeppa Meshougeki - Zanku Tenshouken - Shou Zetsuenshou
Reala~ Aqua Rims - Fran Brave - Sylph“s Tear - Earth Teeth
Loni~ Critical Blade- Spiral Driver - Final Prayer -
Shinten Rekku Zankou Senpuu Messai Shinbatsu Kassatsu Geki/ Kogeki
Judas~ Majin Senretsushou - Jouha Meshounnen - Shouha Rekkouzen
-Giren Shoureizan + Majin Rengokusatsu
Nanaly~ Wild Geeze
Harold~ Aqua Rims- Fran Brave - Sol Bright - Lunar Shade
[ToS]
Lloyd~Tenshou Souhazan
Colette~ Holy Judgment
Genius~ Indignate Judgment
Refill~Sacred Shine- Fairy Circle
Kratos~ Shining Bind
Shihna~ Undine-Efreet-Sylph-Gnome-Volt-Celsius-Luna-Shadow
Origin-Maxwell
Presea~ Reppa Enshougeki - Hien Messhoujin
Zelos~ Shining Bind - Divine Judgment
Regal~ Garen Reshuugeki
[TOR]
Veigue~ & Annie= Ryuuko Metsugazan- &Mao= Embrace End
- & Hilda= Celsius Caliber
Tytree~&Hilda=Thousand Braver- &Annie= Infinite Strike
-&Mao= Guren Tenshou
Eugene~&Mao= Inferno Drive - & Annie= Shouha Rekkouzen
-&Hilda= Dual the Sun + Extensions
[TOA]
Luke~ Radiant Howl(&Ion) - Lost Fon Drive
Tear~ Innocent Shine - Fortune“s Ark (& extension)
Jade~ Mystic Cage- Indignation
Guy~ Hou Tenshouoku - Brilliant Overlord (JP name?)
Anise~Satsugeki bukouken (&Izayoi Tenbu) - Fever Time
Natalia~ Astral rain - Noble Roar
Asch~Kouga Meishouzan
[TOI]
Ruca~ Mao Shakumetsujin
Iria~ Brain Vein Wish
Spada~ Shinretsusenkouzan
Ricardo~ Endless Tragedy
Ange~ Houyokushitenshou
Hermana~ Seiryuuhoutenretsu
[TOS:KoR]
Yet to know the names...
[ToV]
Yet to know the names...
[ToDR]
Stan~ Kuou Tenshouyoku - Hiou tsetsuenshou - Satsugeki Bukouken
Gouma Kaijinken - Zankuu Tenshouken
Rutee~ Trickster - Life Discharge - Embrace End
Lion ~ Jouha Meshounnen - Majin rengokusatsu - Majinken Setsuga
Philia ~ Sacred Blame - Divine Power- Rebirth Crusader
Woodrow~ Reshou Souhajin - Koubu Senkusen - Sekkazan
Mary~ Shinrai Bakusai - ZAN!
Chelsea~ Shinranagi Touga - Wild Geeze
Johnny ~ Sonic Stream - Layer Sphere
Kongman ~ Tres Bien hip - Gozza Blow
Lilith~Thunder Sword
Universal~ Raintive Ortion - Surviving Hollin - Celestial Earth
Thats it for player hi ougis, later I will do the enemies ones, PLEASE tell me if something is missing ALAS if something is wrong
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Kurosuzaku
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Posts: 38
black phoenix
Re: An "All hi ougi video" project
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Reply #1 on:
August 11, 2008, 02:12:32 AM »
Chester's hi-ougi might be the same move as Chelsea's Shiten Meisatsu (sp?) PSX version.
Cless also has Satsugeki Bukouken in the PSX version.
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Mayu Miyuki
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Posts: 7
Re: An "All hi ougi video" project
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Reply #2 on:
August 11, 2008, 12:25:02 PM »
I have to insist on a few things, based on my opinion of what artes fall under the "hi ougi" category. I might be rather picky about these things, but if you would rather take your project into another direction, then don't mind me.
In the original Destiny, -no one- has a hi ougi. All of the "flash" ougi attacks are just that, ougi, or arcane artes under the current US localization standard. All of the physical attacks that everyone has are tokugi (base artes) except for these "flash" ougi and Stahn's combination artes (translated as "sacred skills" in the PSX localization, though they are still ougi like all the others that the remaining characters have).
Likewise, in Eternia, Chat and Max/Fog's "Level 3 Skills" are ougi. Even if Elemental Master has a cut-in, or if Eternal Throw/Hammer has a background change, both attacks are used as normal skills, and considered even within the game itself as ougi (though they aren't designated officially as such, so that is open to debate). Regardless, they are not of the same tier as Reid or Farah's hi ougi artes.
And typically, Meredy and Keele's summons won't be considered as hi ougi artes since they are -summons- (shoukan), but that is up to your discretion I suppose, since all of Sheena's summons (koureishoufu) come with her cut-in in Symphonia PS2. Though personally, I wouldn't consider Sheena's summons to be hi ougi since all they did was to patch on a cut-in image without giving her a signature attack for her own. I don't know what to consider Arche's appearance during Shooting Star though, but I would rather list it under a separate category. It's up to you to add it.
By the same logic, Phantasia PSX has only one true hi ougi attack - Meikuu Zanshouken. I believe Satsugeki Bukouken was listed as a tokugi? But this is up to your own discretion too. However, the other attacks that were listed are not considered to be hi ougi artes within this game. Time Stop qualifies only within Abyss, Big Bang might have been considered again if this were Abyss, Pluto and Origin are only summons, with the same reasoning as mentioned previously, and Jiraiya is a "flash" ougi.
If we focus on player-only hi ougi artes, then my revised list would be like this (with translated names for reference if needed). There are also quite a few spelling mistakes in your original list (ie. "Garen Reshuugeki" should be "Garen Zesshuugeki"), so I corrected them below, per my romanization preferences. I also blocked out the spoiler content from the games that will be released in the US soon enough.
Phantasia PSX
- Cless Alvein
- Meikuu Zanshouken (Final Justice (in Eternia's cameo)/Dark Blade)
- [?] Satsugeki Bukouken (Assassin/Fatal Fury/Final Fury)
Eternia
- Reid Hershel
- Hiou Zetuenshou (Burning Phoenix)
- Ryuuko Metsugazan (Dragon Demon Chaos/Wyrm Wrath)
- Fuujin Fuubakusatsu (Quasi Seal)
- Kyokkouheki (Aurora Wall)
- Kyokkouken (Aurora Sword)
- Kyokkouha (Aurora Wave)
- Farah Oersted
- Shikou Bakusaijin (Maximum Burst/Ground Breaker (in Symphonia's cameo))
- Karyuu Enbu (Flame Dance)
- Keele Zeibel/Meredy
- [summons]
- Maxwell + Extensions
- Indignation vs. Sekundes
- [?] Groovy Arche, or whatever you will call it
- Meredy
- Destiny summon
Destiny 2
- Kyle Dunamis
- Resshou Souhajin
- Zeppa Messhougeki
- Souryuu Metsugazan
- Zankuu Tenshouken
- Shouou Zetuenshou
- Loni Dunamis
- Critical Blade
- Spiral Driver
- Final Prayer
- [failure] Shinten Rekku Zankou Senpuu Messai Shinbatsu Kougeki
- [success] Shinten Rekku Zankou Senpuu Messai Shinbatsu Kassatsugeki
- Judas
- Majin Senretsushou
- Jouha Messhouen
- Shouha Rekkousen (Light Blast)
- Giren Shoureizan
- Majin Rengokusatsu (Infernal Suffering (the trans. of the different-kanji-same-name hi ougi that Leon has))
- Reala
- Aqua Rimms
- Earth Tapper
- Flam Brave
- Sylph's Tear
- Nanaly Fletch
- Wild Geese
- Harold Belserius
- Flam Brave
- Aqua Rimms
- Luna Shade
- Sol Bright
Symphonia GCN
- Lloyd Irving
- Tenshou Souhazan (Falcon's Crest)
- Colette Brunel
- Holy Judgment
- Genis Sage
- Indignation Judgment
Symphonia PS2
[same as GCN, plus...]
- Raine Sage
- Sacred Shine
- Fairy Circle
- Kratos Aurion
- Shining Bind
- Zelos Wilder
- Shining Bind
- Divine Judgment
- Sheena Fujibayashi
- [summons]
- Presea Combatir
- Reppa Enshougeki (Infernal Ruin)
- Hien Messhoujin
- Regal Bryant
- Garen Zesshuugeki
Rebirth
- Veigue Lungberg + Annie Barrs
- Ryuuko Metsugazan (Dragon Demon Chaos/Wyrm Wrath)
- Veigue Lungberg + Mao
- Embrace End (Final Embrace)
- Veigue Lungberg + Hilda Rhambling
- Celsius Calibur
- Tytree Crowe + Annie Barrs
- Infinitia Strike
- Tytree Crowe + Mao
- Guren Tenshou
- Tytree Crowe + Hilda Rhambling
- Thousand Braver
- Eugene Gallardo + Annie Barrs
- Shouha Rekkousen (Light Blast)
- Eugene Gallardo + Mao
- Inferno Drive
- Eugene Gallardo + Hilda Rhambling
- Dual the Sun (Duel the Sol) [+ Extensions]
Abyss
- Luke fon Fabre
- Radiant Howl [+ Ion extension (US ver.)]
- Lost Fon Drive
- Tear Grants
- Innocent Shine
- Fortune Ark [+ unnamed extension (US ver.)]
- Jade Curtiss
- Mystic Cage
- Indignation
- Guy Cecil
- Houou Tenshouku (Razing Phoenix)
- Brilliant Overlord (US ver.)
- Anise Tatlin
- Satsugeki Bukouken (Final Fury) [+ Izayoi Tenbu (Dying Moon) extension]
- Fever Time
- Natalia Luzu Kimlasca Lanvaldear
- Astral Rain
- Noble Roar (US ver.)
- Asch
- Kouga Meishouzan (Rending Saber)
Destiny PS2 remake
- Stahn Aileron
- Kouou Tenshouyoku (Phoenix)
- Hiou Zetuenshou (Burning Phoenix)
- Satsugeki Bukouken (Assassin/Fatal Fury/Final Fury)
- Gouma Kaijinken
- Zankuu Tenshouken
- Rutee Katrea
- Trickster
- Life Discharge
- Embrace End (Final Embrace)
- Leon Magnus
- Jouha Messhouen
- Majin Rengokusatsu (Infernal Suffering)
- Majinken Setsuga (DC ver.)
- Philia Philis
- Sacred Blame (Sacred Penance)
- Divine Power
- Rebirth Crusader
- Woodrow Kelvin
- Resshou Souhajin
- Koubu Senkousen
- Zekkazan
- Mary Argent
- Shinrabakusai
- ZAN!
- Chelsea Torn
- Shiranagi Touga
- Wild Geese
- Johnny Sheeden
- Sonic Stream
- Layer Sphere
- Mighty Kongman
- Tres Bien Hip
- Gozza Blow
- Lilith Aileron
- Thunder Sword
- everyone
- Raintive Orion
- Surviving Hollin
- Celestial Earth
Innocence
- Ruca Milda
- Maou Shakumetsujin
- Iria Animi
- Reined Vein Wish
- Spada Belforma
- Shinretsu Senkouzan
- Ange Serena
- Houyoku Shitenshou
- Ricardo Soldato
- Endless Tragedy
- Hermana Larmo
- Seiryuu Houtenretsu
Symphonia: Ratatosk
- Emil Castagnier
- Maou Gokuenha [+ Ain Soph Aur extension]
- Marta Lualdi
- Radiant Lore
- Lloyd Irving
- Shouha Soutenzan
- Colette Brunel
- Holy Judgment
- Genis Sage
- Indignation
- Raine Sage
- Sacred Shine
- Zelos Wilder
- Shining Bind
- Sheena Fujibayashi
- Fuujin Fuubakusatsu (Quasi Seal)
- Presea Comabatir
- Hien Messhoujin
- Regal Bryant
- Satsugeki Bukouken: Donrou
Vesperia
- Yuri Lowell
- Zankou Roueijin
- Estelle
- Sacred Blame (Sacred Penance)
- Repede
- ZAN!!
- Karol Capel
- Gouharenjin Impact
- Rita
- Ancient Catastrophe
- Raven
- Blast Heart
- Judith
- Kouka Gesshousen
- Flynn Scifo (I don't know if he can use his hi ougi while playable for that VERY short time in one encounter-link battle)
- Kouryuu Metsugasou
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Last Edit: August 20, 2008, 07:00:41 PM by Mayu Miyuki
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Kevassa
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Posts: 498
Kore ga watashi no.... SATSUGEKI BUKOUKEN!
Re: An "All hi ougi video" project
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August 11, 2008, 02:11:35 PM »
That sure helped, on a small note you missed Eternia“s Destiny summon for meedy only (it IS different to all the tother summons)
Then I was also a bit uncomfortable with TOD and ToP PSX "hi ougis".
About chat and Fog... I do wish to add them to the vid, but they really do seem not to consider Eternal Throw a hi ougi, since on the RM2 trailer she uses as a normal skill...
But oh well... About summons, I might just add the most powerful out of all the summons and that would be a bit more fitting as a hi ougi right?
Like
Keel
Maxwell + Extensions
Meredy
Destiny
Sheena
Maxwell
Right?
I really appreciate you helped Mayu Miyuki!
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Mayu Miyuki
Newbie
Posts: 7
Re: An "All hi ougi video" project
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August 11, 2008, 05:24:02 PM »
I edited my list since I noticed a few minor mistakes of my own - I forgot to add Asch's hi ougi, and I mistyped Ruca's hi ougi. I also added Meredy's Destiny summon since I do consider it to be a secret attack that falls under the "hi ougi" category due to its unique requirements, unlike the generic summons.
It would make your video shorter if you removed the lesser summons anyway, so I think it might be a good idea to show the strongest they have if you have to show them at all. Though some completionists might complain, it's your choice in the end.
EDIT - Also keep in mind that Vesperia is rumored to have second hi ougi artes that are available during the second playthrough, but this is unconfirmed still. We'll see whenever more is revealed from the Japanese version throughout the next few weeks, and if the English version will add or improve anything like with Abyss (doubtful but possible). Same with Ratatosk/DotNW too.
Have fun with your video!
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Last Edit: August 11, 2008, 05:29:06 PM by Mayu Miyuki
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Kevassa
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Posts: 498
Kore ga watashi no.... SATSUGEKI BUKOUKEN!
Re: An "All hi ougi video" project
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August 11, 2008, 05:53:46 PM »
Quote from: Mayu Miyuki on August 11, 2008, 05:24:02 PM
I edited my list since I noticed a few minor mistakes of my own - I forgot to add Asch's hi ougi, and I mistyped Ruca's hi ougi. I also added Meredy's Destiny summon since I do consider it to be a secret attack that falls under the "hi ougi" category due to its unique requirements, unlike the generic summons.
It would make your video shorter if you removed the lesser summons anyway, so I think it might be a good idea to show the strongest they have if you have to show them at all. Though some completionists might complain, it's your choice in the end.
EDIT - Also keep in mind that Vesperia is rumored to have second hi ougi artes that are available during the second playthrough, but this is unconfirmed still. We'll see whenever more is revealed from the Japanese version throughout the next few weeks, and if the English version will add or improve anything like with Abyss (doubtful but possible). Same with Ratatosk/DotNW too.
Have fun with your video!
Lol thanks!
I will need someone to record ToS:KoR and ToV hio ugis anyways, so they will be left for VERY last XD
Im still missing someone to record Blue Earth, since I dont have a second controller (might buy one if this takes too long) and Im playing a third playthrough to get Majin rengokusatsu in ToD2
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Lanyn
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Re: An "All hi ougi video" project
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August 11, 2008, 06:54:59 PM »
Quote from: Kevassa
Im still missing someone to record Blue Earth, since I dont have a second controller
You can use mine if you want. It's not the best of quality, but it might save you some major frustration. ^^
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