Tales of Phantasia Engine

[DarkCless]

Well i'm just wondering, and i'd appreciate not being flammed for asking . Is there a Tales Engine that people can screw around with that someone made? Or Cless, do you ever plan to make one since you seem pretty good with reverse engineering and whatnot. I realize it's a big task if there isn't one, but i think having a Tales Engine would be pretty cool to use instead of some crappy RPG Maker XP and so forth engine.

[Cyllya]

I know there's an RPG-Maker-like thing for fighting games that people sometimes make Tales-themed fighting games with, but  I'm not sure what it is (Fighter Maker? Mugen?), and there's nothing to make an actual Tales-style RPG. You might try Game Maker?

But, arggh, I've seen people ask this before, and it always gives me this hard-to-supress urge to see if I could program the basic structure of a Tales game in Flash. If I was able to do so and put the .fla for download, someone who's not a total failure at programming could edit it to create an actual game... if they Flash... which costs $700 if you want to get it legally. >_>; Well, if anyone's interested, I'll put it on my to do list. I need actionscript practice, so I can justify spending time on it (starting in a few months).

[spaceworlder]

You could always try Verge.

[Goshi]

When will people learn that no one uses Verge anymore =P

[spaceworlder]

I use it. 

The Verge coding language may be a bit crude, but it is pretty flexible. With a bit of work, I can see someone putting together a Tales battle engine with it.

[DarkCless]

Yeah it's Called M.U.G.E.N i can't remember what it stands for. But it's interesting i played as Cless and 2 other Tales characters but it bored me pretty quickly. Unfortunately i couldn't even begin to help, i have used RPG Maker XP it isn't a bad program but unless you know a ton of Ruby Script it's really a waste of time. As for Game Maker, i did take a look at it, at one point i'm not sure why i didn't try it. Maybe i thought at the time it looked too much like RPG Maker XP, if you ever used RPG Maker XP when you walk around it just doesn't feel right a very generic feel too it, I'd love to get a hold of a Tales engine or a Ys engine.

As for Verge i didn't like the look of it at all, i could probably make a non RPG game easier with RPG Maker XP but thanks for mentioning it.

I've heard some good things about your work Cyllya. So if you ever do anything like making a Tales engine i wish you luck.

[Cless]

VERGE is probably the best and most flexible engine that I've seen, especially for RPGs. Sad it's not more popular than it is. Seemed very capable in its version 2 form, not sure what's new in VERGE 3 aside from better color and higher resolution modes.

I haven't been a part of the VERGE scene since 1999/2000, though.  I lost my crappy game in a hard disk format and really decided I didn't have what it takes to make a good game from scratch anyhow, and went back to hacking and translating commercial games...

[justin3009]

Mugen is really really bad imo.  I prefer Fighter Maker.  It's alot easier compared to Mugen, and is actual pretty fun.

[FSLink]

Mugen is really really bad imo.  I prefer Fighter Maker.  It's alot easier compared to Mugen, and is actual pretty fun.

Where can you find tutorials and stuff for Fighter Maker? I have the program here but I'm completely lost at what I'm doing....XD

[justin3009]

I'm not really sure.  I actually learned how to work with Fighter Maker on my own...technically.  I was browsing through the game "Cross Calibur" (Fan made tales of fighting game) and I kinda got the hang of it.  Just kinda browse around for that and look how moves work, you'll catch on quickly.

[StIoachim]

About Verge, it's going great. The last version added Lua as an alternative language to the native VergeC, and the map/entitie system has advanced a lot since the times of Verge 2

[FSLink]

I'm not really sure.  I actually learned how to work with Fighter Maker on my own...technically.  I was browsing through the game "Cross Calibur" (Fan made tales of fighting game) and I kinda got the hang of it.  Just kinda browse around for that and look how moves work, you'll catch on quickly.

I looked around in it as well for a bit, but I got lost. :x
Maybe it's because I'm just used to other game developing software...XD
I'll try looking around it again and start messing with things more when I have more time.

[justin3009]

I still find it amazing how a few color changes in graphics in FM can make the attak graphics look 3D

[ToP-4ever]

It really depends on the system you plan to make the game for. If, for instance, you'd like to create a game for the psp, you'd have to code in C, which means you'd have to start from scratch, while a pc gives you more options.
I personally love to use C, because you create all the code yourself, so you can optimize your program a lot better.