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« on: June 17, 2007, 11:27:25 AM »

Although I've been fairly strict about retaining translation continuity with the US ToD1 (even in cases where I prefer the original) with this project, I've thought about making an exception. I'm sure most of the fandom would approve it anyway. As you might guess by the subject, it would be leaving Johnny as Johnny and not going with Karyl.

The main reason being that Karyl IMO is too similar to Karell, the first name of swordian Berselius.

Of course, many others like to question or make immature jokes about his gender or sexuality with that name, since it's often pronounced like another name which is predominately female.

Anyway, I don't know how much of a role Johnny has in ToD2, but you can get his instruments according to the items list.
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2007, 11:39:40 AM »

I prefer Johnny. I also think it's a bit silly that the localization team chose that name and didn't bother doing anything about the piano in his house with Johnny, in big letters, written on it. I hear you meet him in ToD2's secret dungeon or something like that.

The problem I see with changing it to Johnny is that those who played the US version of ToD and don't know his Japanese name is Johnny might be confused. But then again, most people who would be searching out ToD2 probably knows more than the average US-only player and would know about the whole Johnny-Karyl thing.

Still, my vote goes to Johnny.
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2007, 12:14:58 PM »

Johnny.

And really, anyone who knows about this site, should know about all the name changes anyway.
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2007, 02:21:08 PM »

It'll be pretty weird to go with Johnny but use the English names for Garr and Bruiser, but, eh...
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2007, 02:56:27 PM »

I prefer Japanese names like Johnny, Woodrow, Kongman, Fog, Genius, Refill, Klarth...
I vote in Johnny Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2007, 03:02:22 PM »

This is the only one I prefer unchanged.  Especially since it says his name in giant letters on his piano in ToD.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2007, 04:53:16 PM »

My vote goes to Johnny, too. While I think Garr and Bruiser are silly names, I can deal with them staying for the sake of ToD1 US if they really have to be in there...

But Karyl? Hell no. Johnny please. :|
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2007, 01:36:15 AM »

heck, with all the jokes in ND2 about garr/woodrow being a massively OMGZdreamy/hott!!11!!/whatever prince, i'm not even sure a rough-sounding name like garr would be appropriate, either Tongue

but if we must, for ToD US continuity...
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2007, 04:28:33 AM »

I'd vote for ToD US continuity, but then again, if there is audio using the names I shall raise my hand for original names, as I honestly can't stand watching stuff where names between audio and text mismatch.
As that usually requires a bit of knowledge related to the naming issue(s)... but then again, playing ToD2J in English would probably mean you're already familiar with ToD and the US names...

The good thing about reverting to Japanese names (or anything else than full ToD US continuity) would ofcourse be that you're making your own translation continuity that can be carried over to any evt. future projects too.
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2007, 08:46:36 AM »

Definitely Johnny !!!!!

And as :::::supersonic1453::::: said

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Especially since it says his name in giant letters on his piano in ToD.

I agree when I first play ToD and talked to his family at his house every one said Karyl but in His room was JOHNNY on his piano Smiley) and It was a bit confuse he he

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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2007, 10:19:05 AM »

Johnny all the way. Continuity is a good thing, but for names like Johnny, Woodrow and Kongman, I'm totally for dropping ToD US.
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2007, 10:59:25 AM »

This change is really not for any preference reasons. It's only because the name is so similar to another majorish character in the game's universe.

And if we end up doing ToDR down the line, it will be retained.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2007, 11:55:19 PM »

I'd go with Johnny anyway. You can rename the characters if I recall correctly so if you don't like Johnny, just rename him =/

I know I'm doing that with Woodrow and Kongman.
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2007, 12:17:35 AM »

you can't rename them in ToD2 Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2007, 04:10:37 AM »

you can't rename them in ToD2 Tongue

I yeah, I was thinking of ToD1, silly me =(
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2007, 12:49:59 PM »

Johnny all the way.

Why did they change their names for the English version of Destiny anyway?
I mean Kongman is fine since it sounds iffy in English...
But Garr? Karyl? X_x
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