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« on: April 10, 2011, 10:42:50 AM »

Hi! since this is a translations forum, and since KH is also an awesome JRPG series;
I thought I should post here the official fan translation blog for KH2FM ( http://xeeynamo.blogspot.com/2011/04/kingdom-hearts-ii-final-mix-engita.html?showComment=1302456056139#c2380764633108537950 )
so you can support them and you can share some knowledge when it comes to good fan translations of games that should have came to the west.
Thank you! Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 02:26:32 PM »

I have yet to play KH2 so this could be interesting but what's the difference between the regular and the final mix edition anyway?
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 08:17:23 PM »

Already uploaded a pre-patched ISO on EP actually  haha : (goto: epforums.org and find it yourself on the PS2 Master List, it's staying up, but Cless deleted the thread link Sad )
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 05:16:04 AM »

Well KHII is already an awesome game, but KHII final mix have new bosses , new weapons, new items, new cutscens, a new places including one were you can replay some bosses fights as many times as you want, a new form, new heartless (is the name of the common enemies), and as far as I remeber is that.
KH1 also have a final mix version but there isnt a translation, for KHBbS there is one but I dont know the link (as I dont have a PSP and I cant play it on a emulator)
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2011, 09:51:31 AM »

ok thanks for the reply bajol, guess I'll try the Final Mix version

@ Destrudo : not sure you should be posting that link here  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2011, 07:20:21 PM »

Don't be a killjoy, filesharing isn't illegal (nor is backing up images) and you'd need to register to see the links anyway  haha

If it's interesting enough to make a post about, then uploading/sharing it makes it all the more interesting.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2011, 06:40:12 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROM_image#Legal_status

It's illegal...
Nuff said

Edit: Same for your Rom link in your video for Tales of Destiny 2 pre-patched
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2011, 10:21:46 PM »

Hmmm, I gotta say that while I understand it kinda boggles me the need to work on these "final mix" games for their extras while leaving lots of good PS2 games untouched. I mean, the hardwork going for this could go for venus and braves or something like that.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2011, 03:58:48 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROM_image#Legal_status

It's illegal...
Nuff said

Edit: Same for your Rom link in your video for Tales of Destiny 2 pre-patched

Taken from your link (certainly not "Nuff said", learn to read):

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Private ownership In some countries, it is legal for an individual to personally make backup copies of a game they own. Individuals may make backup copies for various reasons, perhaps as insurance against losing the game or as redundancy in the event that the original game's medium becomes unreadable. See the section on ROMs and Preservation.

I own both games and made the images, not roms, myself (I can't take credit for the patches of course, I never intended to) so **** you, they're never going down, and will be re-upped when the uploads are removed/deleted/unavailiable etc Cheesy

Also I gave credit to Phantasian Productions on the description (also had the link to the official thread for the patch release before my thread post link) of the youtube vid, and posted the links on youtube not here.

EDIT ok I finished reading it (everything unlike you, plz re-read your own wiki link before replying Cheesy ), but it still says nothing's illegal about filehosting/sharing itself (or backing up images, which isn't illegal either..) and also who cares when most law enforcement overall could care less on the subject:

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Legal enforcement There have been few convictions and lawsuits related to ROM trading. Criminal convictions tend to be related to high-profile warez groups which trade combinations of recent films and computer games. In contrast, the ROM scene tends to concentrate mostly on older games. Given the lack of continuing profit from most older games, the grievances of games companies rarely exceed sending a cease and desist letter which demands that the recipient stop distributing the copyrighted works in question.

Even the court rulings could give less of a shit either: (continued from "private ownership" on your link):

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However, in the U.S. it has been illegal since 1983 for a user to create their own backups of video game ROMs onto other cartridges. This was decided in the court case of Atari v. JS&A. JS&A manufactured a "game backup" device that allowed users to dump their Atari ROMs onto a blank cartridge. JS&A argued that the archival rule allowed for this. The court disagreed, noting that ROM media was not subject to the same volatility as magnetic media (for which the law was created). Thus, not being so relatively vulnerable, ROMs were not applicable under section 17 USC 117(a)(2).[5]

 did you read this time? again it says:

"The court disagreed, noting that ROM media was not subject to the same volatility as magnetic media (for which the law was created). Thus, not being so relatively vulnerable, ROMs were not applicable under section 17 USC 117(a)(2).[5]"



Also I never posted a link to the files themselves, if cless or someone wants to delete the links I posted [which have the real MF/MU downlink after registering (highly reccomended) on that site (again the real download links AREN'T EVEN ON THIS SITE!)]  , then I have no probs w/ that, however, no-one but me can delete the real links posted @ EP so it's your loss Cheesy.

Isn't it exbarrassing that this is all coming from your own post? (this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROM_image#Legal_status )

, nice try though it's actually quite funny for me when ppl don't read their own post while making false cliams lol.


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Though, filehosting wasn't said to be "illegal" on your original post and now your posting 2 other links w/  completely diff topics(when was the conversation about software licensing?). Well, whatever, believe what you want, I will be hosting them regardless (while taking no credit), ppl pre-patch images all the time (like undubs) for re-distribution, I don't see why everyone hates the idea so damn much, sor-ry. Most ppl who use my links usually have no problem w/ it, and for ex: ToP's been pre-patched/uploaded time and again w/o any compliants or cease-and-desist BS on several sources

It's still derivative work (not illegal or warez) to say the least, even if I'm not the author (take no credit,and always site the source except for KH II FM, since the original KH II FM patch site is down, this actually helps some ppl) , but you still get the wrong idea, it's not meant to promote piracy it's to promote the project itself, nothing more. If they want the patch they have the link to the original patch, if they have problems with the process somehow or want to skip it they can get the pre-patched image.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2011, 07:48:25 AM »

I own both games and made the images, not roms, myself (I can't take credit for the patches of course, I never intended to) so **** you, they're never going down, and will be re-upped when the uploads are removed/deleted/unavailiable etc Cheesy
Uh ? good for you and thanks for the insult btw...
I'm sure you're not aware of the Espal case but I'll let you google it.

Even if you gave credit to Phantasia Production for the patch, you're still going against the law, if Translation groups are giving patchs it's only because they do not contain any Copyright data and only alter the Rom of the possessor.
Which is authorized as long as you don't distribute it.


EDIT ok I finished reading it (everything unlike you, plz re-read your own wiki link before replying Cheesy ), but it still says nothing's illegal about filehosting/sharing itself (or backing up images, which isn't illegal either..) and also who cares when most law enforcement overall could care less on the subject:

If you've read everything you would have seen this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_license
Also, just a little googling:
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If you are sharing a file that was originally made free, it is not illegal. You are simply redistributing the software. However, if you are sharing something such as a rip of a program, a keygen, or a torrent of a program that originally costs money, then that is illegal.
In that case you're still against the law.

"The court disagreed, noting that ROM media was not subject to the same volatility as magnetic media (for which the law was created). Thus, not being so relatively vulnerable, ROMs were not applicable under section 17 USC 117(a)(2).[5]"

It's talking about "as you said" Private Ownership of a rom, and use it for personal use with an Emulator.
That's why what you've read was considered Legal, but that's not about Filehosting and Sharing Rom/Iso

Btw in your own quote you forgot to link this: http://www.worldofspectrum.org/EmuFAQ2000/AppendixB.htm
I'm a bit lazy to quote and quote again most of stuff from there so go read...


Also I never posted a link to the files themselves, if cless or someone wants to delete the links I posted [which have the real MF/MU downlink after registering (highly reccomended) on that site (again the real download links AREN'T EVEN ON THIS SITE!)]  , then I have no probs w/ that, however, no-one but me can delete the real links posted @ EP so it's your loss Cheesy.

Why are you so "proud" of this ? posting a "link to a link which leads to the download host " is still illegal huh and I dare you to post a photograph of your real Tales of Destiny 2 PSP game with a proof that it's you "a little paper with Destrudo on it will do the trick"

nice try though it's actually quite funny for me when ppl don't read their own post while making false cliams lol.
Nice try for what ? I just said it's illegal. Which is true and you're just blind.
If it was for a Nes Games or anything I couldn't care less, but Playstation 2 games are still on the market even if it's a bit old.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2011, 10:13:09 AM »

While I'm not particularly proud of people who distribute pre-patched images...

ARGUMENTS CEASE NOW
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2011, 11:11:01 AM »

While I'm not particularly proud of people who distribute pre-patched images...

ARGUMENTS CEASE NOW

Good idea, this guy's giving me a headache, no more posting links to roms here I get the point. Done.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2011, 01:47:35 PM »

How good is the patch? I know there is still some stuff left in japanese (a few areas that are voiced in english) but overall is the patch buggy or does it play really well? Should I just wait for the final version or what?
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2011, 03:57:57 PM »

It's got a 2nd beta finished but no dialogue is in english subs except the voice dub (some cutscenes have no dubs unfortunately), just the menu and some of the action button prompts (using majik's PPF patch).
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2011, 03:24:45 PM »

The few scenes with no English VA are the new scenes that are fan subbed on youtube correct? That's not too bad, I can easily just pre-load them on my laptop when I get near those scenes.
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2011, 09:50:36 PM »

I've already beaten KH2FM in Japanese (On Critical even!) but I'll have to try this patch out when I do my Level 01 runthrough on Critical Mode.
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