Bandai Namco: Huge Support for Wii

[Dimentionalist]

http://gonintendo.com/

Towards the bottom of the page is some news on Bandai Namco's support for Wii: 30 games compared to PS3/360's 10. ALso notice that they've got a new RPG in addition to Sword of Legendia. Things just keep looking better and better for Wii.

[Cyllya]

I don't see what you're refering to on that page, but I'll take your word for it.

Yay for Namco making games for the cheap system. *hopes none of the 10 PS3 games are from Team Symphonia*

[throughhim413]

The post is a few pages back now on that site.  I'm glad to hear this though.  Here's to hoping that I can get my Tales fix in the next gen without having to drop the cash for a PS3...

[Dimentionalist]

  Here's to hoping that I can get my Tales fix in the next gen without having to drop the cash for a PS3...

 *hopes none of the 10 PS3 games are from Team Symphonia*

Agreed on those points. Despite playing a PS3 in Target and liking the feel of the controller and seeing some of the features on IGN, I hope (most of) the Tales series stays away from the PS3 for now.

[Leroy]

I hope that Pac-Man game is cool. It should be if it's being made by Namco Japan (Pac-Pix for instance, is probably the most genius game made for the DS). The Pac-Man games that Namco US makes are soulless, vulgar grabs at an easy dollar.

[Magicpaint]

Guys, the price of the PS3 won't be that high forever. I personally want to see a big budget Tales game with cutting edge graphics.

[throughhim413]

Cutting edge graphics just aren't necessary to Tales.  I mean, besides getting smoother around the edges, for a game done in anime style, what's the difference for a Tales game on the GC or PS2 compared to the PS3?  Not a whole lot really.  Of course, I don't really care about graphics in the first place.  If gaming were still stuck back in the PS1 era, I would be having just as much fun gaming as I am now.

Also, a PS3 price cut won't mean all that much really... I mean, what's a discount from a $600 retail.  Look at the PSP, it was $250, now it's $200.  So yay, after a few years, you'll be able to snatch up a PS3 for only $550!  And regardless of the system price, you'll still be shelling out $60 to $100 per game.  Sorry, I don't hate Sony or anything, I've just lost confidence in them as a result of their post-PS2 policies.  Seems like they've lost sight of things.

[Azu]

I think namco will stick with PS2 until it dies.

[Leroy]

I mean, besides getting smoother around the edges, for a game done in anime style, what's the difference for a Tales game on the GC or PS2 compared to the PS3?  Not a whole lot really.

If you've got an HDTV the difference would be HUGE.

[throughhim413]

With an anime style game, with anime style cutscenes?  I'm sorry, but I don't really see it.  Maybe I'm just overlooking something, but like I said, besides smoother edges and nicer looking 3D, what real difference is it going to make?  For realistic games, sure, I see a difference, even for backgrounds in anime style games, but on the whole, I can't see it having an impact on the way I game (unless you count paying more).

[Leroy]

By your logic "anime" style games (whatever that means) wouldn't look much better from the PS1 to the PS2.

[throughhim413]

Yes, that's exactly right.  Exactly what I was trying to say.  The only real difference is the addition of 3D.  But it's not like you can develop beyond 3D.  All you can do it make it look nicer, particularly at parts like this.

Of course, I don't really care about graphics in the first place.  If gaming were still stuck back in the PS1 era, I would be having just as much fun gaming as I am now.

And do you mean you don't understand what I mean by anime style game?  Tales is clearly done in an anime style, as in, character designs and backgrounds similar to what one would see in Japanese anime.  Final Fantasy on the other hand would be an RPG with a more 'realistic' style to it.

You know, like the difference between THIS and THIS.

[Leroy]

Do you mean to tell me you don't see the difference between the overworld graphics from Tales of Destiny (PS1) to the overworld graphics from Tales of the Abyss (PS2)?

Wow.. just, wow.

[Magicpaint]

Cutting edge graphics aren't necessary yes, but that doesn't mean I don't want it. I'm a self-admitted graphic whore and so many parts of current gen games made me cringe because of technical flaws, I want a Tales game that for once doesn't take me away from the experience with such flaws. It'll improve my experience with them.

As for the price, just saying. The PS2 launched around here for £299 and I can get it for £99 now... it will drop in due time, though how long it takes I have no concrete idea of.

[throughhim413]

Now now Leroy, no need to be so extreme.  Going by that logic, I could ask if you mean to tell me that Tales of Destiny is a worse game then Tales of the Abyss because it doesn't have a beautiful world map, but that isn't a fair question for either of us.  I didn't say that I didn't see the difference in graphics.  There has been an improvement, and I'm not in any way trying to deny that.  But really, overworld graphics.  How much of a difference in the gaming experience does that make for you?  It's not like you spend that much time on the overworld if you don't go out of your way to.  So it looks nicer, okay, cool, there are fewer visible edges on the world map, things look more realistic.

I don't mind improved graphics, I'm just the opposite of a graphics whore I suppose.  Good graphics are nice, but they really make little difference in my overall gaming experience.  I can enjoy Chrono Trigger or Tales of Phantasia as much as any new game like Final Fantasy XII.  Graphics are the lowest concern on the totem pole for me.  I'd rather graphics never change again while gameplay continues to improve than the other way around.  Thankfully, we'll get both, so no worries, right?

[Leroy]

I never said it would make a gameplay difference.. you said games won't look much different on the PS3 than they do on the PS2 and furthermore you said you didn't think games looked much different from the PS1 to the PS2, which is absolutely absurd.

By your logic "anime" style games (whatever that means) wouldn't look much better from the PS1 to the PS2.

Yes, that's exactly right.  Exactly what I was trying to say.

Even taking your 3D comment into consideration (I seem to remember PS1 games being 3D myself) I present to you the graphical difference from Tales of Eternia to Tales of Rebirth (or the upcoming Destiny remake). Does it make a gameplay difference? Not really. Are there definite graphical improvements? Hell yes.

I'm not trying to be dick and I'm 100% behind you on the anti-graphic-whore thing.. give me a good game first and we'll talk about the aesthetics later. Hell, I've easily played my GBA and DS more than my Xbox, GameCube and PS2 combined.. but I'm not silly enough to try to refute that games going from a 640x480 resolution to a 1920x1080 resolution are only going to look "marginally" better. That's almost SEVEN times the pixels. Considering that my comaprison from Destiny (320x240) to Abyss (640x480) was EXTREME and that was only four times the pixels.