The artes/tech/spells/skills/killer moves topic

[throughhim413]

Cless, I'm just wondering, how much are you looking for just straight translation versus localization from us?  I mean, I can do either, but are you looking just for meaning so that you can change the lines yourself or should I actually try to make these sound better myself?  Just curious.  I just started looking through this like 2 minutes ago, I'll post more as I get to it.

From ToD2block1.txt:

異空間から荒れ狂う彗星を召喚する禁呪晶術。<LINE>
消費TPと詠唱時間は尋常ではない<END>
From the far reaches of space, a raging comet is summoned. Forbidden Technique.
TP consumption and Aria Casting Time is out of the ordinary.

I'm not sure of all the varieties of magic in ToD2, but the last part of the first line basically says 'forbidden, cursed technique'.  So do with that what you will.  For the second line, I'm assuming that I'm assuming that an Aria is like a spell.


シルフィスティア
Sylph's Tear maybe?  If you wanted it to be one word, Sylphistia would be about the best I can come up with.


漆黒の闇の淵へ引きずり込む<LINE>
上級晶術<END>
Power is drawn from within the depths of the black abyss.
High Level Technique.

神聖なる裁きの雷を撃ち放つ<LINE>
上級晶術<END>
The Thunder of Holy Judgement delivers a crushing blow.
High Level Technique.

壊滅的な威力の嵐を巻き起こす<LINE>
上級晶術<END>
Creates a raging tempest that annihilatates its target.
High Level Technique.

古代より伝えられし浄化の炎を呼び起こす<LINE>
上級晶術<END>
A purifying fire is called forth from ages long past.
High Level Techique.

古代より伝えられし浄化の炎を呼び起こす<LINE>
上級晶術<END>
A purifying fire sleeping since before the dawn of time.
High Level Techique.

氷の棺に敵を閉じ込め、「終焉」を与える<LINE>
上級晶術<END>
Imprisons the enemy in a coffin of ice, 'Certain Death' is given.
High Level Technique.

^ I don't like this one, I'm sure you don't either... I'll work on it.

大地の力を圧縮し、そして解放させる<LINE>
上級晶術<END>
Focuses the power of the Earth (ground), then unleashes it.
High Level Technique.

輝きのを突き刺し、更に追撃を加える<LINE>
中級昇華晶術<END>
A radiant spear pierces the enemy, followed by many more.
Mid Level Sublimation Technique.

熱風を巻き起こして敵を吹き飛ばす中級昇華晶術<END>
Creates a blazing wind that blows away the enemy. Mid Level Sublimation Technique.

熱を大地に集中させ、局地的な噴火を起こす<LINE>
中級昇華晶術<END>
Concentrates the heat of the Earth (ground), creating a local eruption.
Mid Level Sublimation Technique.

氷を風の力で粉砕し、敵にぶつける中級昇華晶術<END>
The crushing power of an icy wind smashes into the enemy. Mid Level Sublimation Technique.

水圧を利用して巨大な鉱石を落下させる<LINE>
中級昇華晶術<END>
Using hydraulic pressure, an enormous slab of rock is dropped.
Mid Level Sublimation Technique.

敵の動きを封じ込める魔空間を引き出す<LINE>
中級晶術<END>
Entraps the enemy with power of Daemonium.
Mid Level Technique.

^ 魔空間 - I think Symphonia did this as Daemonium, but that's up to you.

//プリズムフラッシャ<END>
Glittering Prism<END> //may be missing the point here... but I don't like the literal or "prism flash" all that much...
 ^ This isn't what we usually see as Prism Sword, is it?  It certainly sounds like it.  Here's the description:

光の洗礼を受けた七色の剣が降り注ぐ中級晶術<END>
Swords baptized in the seven colors of light rain down. Mid Level Technique.

[Cless]

Okay.

Sylph's Tear looks kind of obvious but I really can't see anything that really supports it, based on the graphics.

Then I just remembered a few minutes ago. Tier. Then I watched the video with its effect again. You could possibly make an argument from one or two of its meanings.

But even so, that still sounds kind of funny to me. But maybe it doesn't in the real world. Can't say I'm an expert with that word.

As for literal vs. localized... I greatly prefer localized, but a literal one could be something for editors to work on. I can edit to a certain degree but my level of cleverness really isn't that great.

//プリズムフラッシャ<END>
Glittering Prism<END> //may be missing the point here... but I don't like the literal or "prism flash" all that much...
 ^ This isn't what we usually see as Prism Sword, is it?  It certainly sounds like it.  Here's the description:

Is it...? I wasn't really aware... I'd better research that.

[throughhim413]

I'm not positive about Prism Sword, but from the description, it really sounds like it.  It's at least worth checking into.

I'll try to go back and edit some of these to sound less... literal.  I usually do two translations of everything.  Once literal so that I understand it completely, then I do it again to make it sound more normal in English.  So what you're seeing here is mostly first translation stuff.

Sylph's Tier could work.  It matches the kana, but it still seems a bit odd for an attack name.  Though I agree with you, Sylph's Tear really doesn't match the effect of the attack.  So I don't know, it might be better to come up with something that sounds close to it but sounds good.  Though if nothing else, I don't have anything against Sylph's Tier.

Whoops, I just noticed something I missed.

For the following 4 spells (Shining Spear, Heat Vortex, Crushing Gust, and Ceiling Fall), these are different from normal Mid Level Technique.  They have this kanji set <昇華> which means 'Sublimation'.  So technically they're called 'Mid Level Sublimation Techniques'.  I'm not sure what makes them different than normal Mid Levels though.  Cless, do you know?

[Cless]

Prism Sword vs. Prism Flasher.

Tales of Symphonia and Abyss both have a spell called Prism Sword in the Japanese versions.

But both of those games came after Destiny 2. Is there even a faint possibility that they chose to rename the spell? I can't get any evidence from Rebirth or Destiny PS2 as they don't seem to contain either spell...

[throughhim413]

Hm... It's certainly possible that they could have renamed it.  I could try and confirm it based on the descriptions, but I don't know where I'd get the the Japanese descriptions of the Symphonia or Abyss moves.  Do you by chance have a video of the ToD2 move?  We could at least see if it's the same effect.

[supersonic1453]

I could've sworn that Shizel knew Prism Sword too.  I just though they called it Prism Flasher because they renamed all the other spells anyway.

[Cless]

No luck with Legendia either now that I look at it.

I don't have a capture card installed anymore so I can't get a screenshot or video of anything... argh.

[throughhim413]

Damn... Hm.  Well, I have Symphonia PS2, but I'm not nearly far enough to have Prism Sword...  Well, I'll just keep working on translating the other stuff for now and I'll see if I can find anything later.

[throughhim413]

無数の真空の刃で敵を切り裂く中級晶術<END>
Countless blades of the void shred the enemy. Mid Level Technique.

地面で強力な爆発を起こす火炎弾を降らせる<LINE>
中級晶術<END>
Raises a powerful explosion from the ground and fires a blazing shot.
Mid Level Technique.

連続的に水流を地面に叩きつける中級晶術<END>
A pillar of water bursts from the ground, continually striking. Mid Level Technique.

重力場を発生させて押しつぶし、<LINE>
大地もろとも破砕する中級晶術<END>
Creates a crushing gravity field that flattens enemies to the ground. Mid Level Spell.

血塗られた呪いの波動が交わる下級昇華晶術<END>
The surges of a blood-stained curse cross paths. Low Level Sublimation Technique.

^ I'm not sure about this description. Bloody Cross is hard to do without knowing more about the spell or having a picture...  I've never seen the spell.

[Cless]

hmm... nuts.

Narikiri Dungeon 3:

Loni has Prism Flasher
Shizel has Prism Sword

Bah!

[throughhim413]

Ah.  Well, I guess that settles that.  Still, I don't think you should use Glittering Prism.  Based on the description, I'd assume the attack is actually seven colored swords, not a prism itself.  So I don't know, but Prism Flasher might be better than the alternative.

[throughhim413]

三連の光弾から滅殺の稲妻を放つ下級昇華晶術<END>
Three strands of light release a destructive burst of energy. Low Level Sublimation Technique.

高速で接近した真空のかまいたちが両側から<LINE>
敵を切り刻む下級昇華晶術<END>
A high speed approach creates cutting winds, slicing the enemy from both sides.
Low Level Sublimation Technique.

局所的に高熱を発生させ、狙った敵を屠る<LINE>
下級昇華晶術<END>
A small area is set ablaze, slaughtering the enemy within.
Low Level Sublimation Technique.

[supersonic1453]

For the sublimation thing, I think all of those spells are extensions so that might have something to do with it.  The description for Bloody Cross is good since that's literally what happens.

[throughhim413]

鋭利な氷の槍を、ターゲットに照準を当てて<LINE>
次々と貫く下級昇華晶術<END>
Sharp spears of ice target the enemy and strike one after the other.
Low Level Sublimation Technique.

とがった岩を連続に突き出し、敵を貫く<LINE>
下級昇華晶術<END>
Pointed rocks protrude in sequence, piercing the enemy.
Low Level Sublimation Technique.

地面から発生した闇の刃が敵を貫く下級晶術<END>
Dark blades spring forth from the ground, piercing the enemy. Low Level Technique.

三つの光弾を同時に撃ち出す下級晶術<END>
Three blasts of light hit simultaneously, striking down the enemy. Low Level Technique.

相手との距離に関係なく真空の刃を発生させる<LINE>
下級晶術<END>
Blades of wind spring forth, striking those within range.
Low Level Technique.

^ This actually says 'the edge of a vacuum', but blades of wind just works better.

複数の火球弾が敵を狙う下級晶術<END>
Several balls of flame are fired at the enemy. Low Level Technique.

高速回転させた水圧を発射する下級晶術<END>
Launches rapidly spinning pillars of water. Low Level Technique.

複数の石片を弧を描いて敵にぶつける下級晶術<END>
Several stones strike the enemy in an arc. Low Level Technique.

^ Can anyone tell me anything about this? I don't get it completely. And Stone Zapper is a strange name lol

[Cless]

Okay. I turned on ToD2 and observed the effect of 'prism flasher'.

Swords of random rainbowy colors rain straight down on the enemies. There's a flash in the sky relative to where they fall from.

Apparently Genis in my ToS games doesn't know Prism Sword (strike type move? :/) so I couldn't compare.

[supersonic1453]

It's kind of like a localized Judgment spell.  Seven rainbowy swords rain down on the target into a pool of rainbow light.