The artes/tech/spells/skills/killer moves topic

[Eien Ni Hen]

In looking at these, my first suggestion is that less is more.  Especially with a two-line max for each description.

On to the specifics:

//漆黒の闇の淵へ引きずり込む<LINE>
//上級晶術<END>

This was the only one I spotted that was incorrect.  It should read:
"Draws (the enemy) into a dark abyss."  The word power is not mentioned in the original, and へ means "into," not "from" (から).  I really hope someone else caught it before I did.  :/

//氷を風の力で粉砕し、敵にぶつける中級昇華晶術<END>
Mid-Ext: The strength of a powerful icy wind<LINE>
smashes into the enemy.<END>

This sounds like Engrish.  "Assails the enemy with a powerful icy wind." is shorter and more natural.

//血塗られた呪いの波動が交わる下級昇華晶術<END>
Low-Ext: The surges of a blood-stained<LINE>
curse cross paths.<END>

This one is a little tricky.  I would say, "Causes (two) cursed, blood-stained waves to cross."

//複数の石片を弧を描いて敵にぶつける下級晶術<END>
Low: Launch an arch of several stones<LINE>
at the enemy.<END>

You can do away with the arc bit and simplify it as : "Launches a hail of stones at the enemy."

魂に通ずるという「影」を貫く特技<END>
Special skill: Pierces the "Shadows" known to the soul.<END>

This is just a guess.   魂に通ずる literally means "known to the soul" but I'm unsure as to how to how it translates in contex.

[throughhim413]

In looking at these, my first suggestion is that less is more.  Especially with a two-line max for each description.

On to the specifics:

//漆黒の闇の淵へ引きずり込む<LINE>
//上級晶術<END>

This was the only one I spotted that was incorrect.  It should read:
"Draws (the enemy) into a dark abyss."  The word power is not mentioned in the original, and へ means "into," not "from" (から).  I really hope someone else caught it before I did.  :/

Yeah, you're totally right about that.  A lot of the ones I did probably aren't quite right.  For one, I didn't have any context to put them in since I haven't played ToD2.  But yeah, on this one I even missed the details.

For this spell, is it an instant death kind of spell?  It sounds something like one.  I agree with what you said though.  Though I might suggest something with a more interesting sound to it.  Shikkoku no yami no fuchi seems to have a more powerful feeling to it than 'dark abyss'.  How about:

High: Drags the enemy into the eternal darkness of the black abyss.

Yeah, it doesn't say eternal.  But jet black darkness has that kind of feeling to it.  I agree with the other comments you made above too.  Feel free to check up on anything I did.  I'm really just an amateur, but the more correction I get, the better it helps me to do in the future.  Thanks.

[supersonic1453]

What spell is that a description for?  I don't think there are any death spells in Destiny 2.

[throughhim413]

It's the description for Execution.

[gyozilla]

魂に通ずるという「影」を貫く特技<END>
Special skill: Pierces the "Shadows" known to the soul.<END>

This is just a guess.   魂に通ずる literally means "known to the soul" but I'm unsure as to how to how it translates in contex.

"lead to the soul", I would say.
"The skill which penetrates the 'shadows', said to be the window to the soul." (or "said to lead/connect to the soul")

漆黒の闇の淵 translates into "abyss of pitch-black darkness" (which is obviously overkill if there is already a space issue).

[Eien Ni Hen]

#WRITE(ptr, $B79DC)
// FF230
自称華麗なる連続攻撃を行う特技<END>
Special skill: Performs an amazing continuous attack.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B79D4)
// FF260
華連撃<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B79C0)
// FF268
電撃の力を利用して敵を討つ特技<END>
Special Skill: Hits the enemy with an electric shock.<END >

#WRITE(ptr, $B79B8)
// FF298
雷牙衝<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B79A4)
// FF2A0
数多の敵を貫通する炎の閃光を生み出す<LINE>
特技<END>
Special Skill: Creates blasts of fire that hit several enemies<LINE>
at once.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B799C)
// FF2E0
龍炎閃<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7988)
// FF2E8
空中から高速の矢で敵を狙い打つ特技<END>
Special Skill: Fires a high-speed arrow at the enemy.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7980)
// FF320
虚空閃<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B796C)
// FF328
攻撃中の敵に対して絶大な追尾性能を持つ特技<END>
Special Skill: Targets a moving enemy with perfect aim.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7964)
// FF368
墜陽閃<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7950)
// FF370
矢を五方向に拡散させて放つ特技<END>
Special Skill: Fires arrows in five directions.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7948)
// FF3A0
扇氷閃<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7934)
// FF3A8
熟練の手さばきで矢を三連射する特技<END>
Special Skill: Rapid-fires three arrows with expert accuracy.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B792C)
// FF3E0
牙連閃<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7918)
// FF3E8
着弾時に爆発する矢を放つ特技<END>
Special Skill: Fires an arrow which explodes on impact.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7910)
// FF418
烈火閃<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B78FC)
// FF420
抗う敵を捕らえ、「滅殺する闇」を開く<LINE>
暗黒奥義<END>
Dark Technique: Seizes a struggling enemy and opens<LINE>
(a portal to) oblivion.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B78F4)
// FF468
魔人滅殺闇<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B78E0)
// FF478
常人の目には見切れぬ瞬間移動を伴った<LINE>
斬撃奥義<END>
Slash Technique: Allows you to move undetected by<LINE>
the naked eye.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B78D8)
// FF4C0
崩龍斬光剣<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B78C4)
// FF4D0
土煙を巻き起こし、双剣によって火花を起こして<LINE>
爆発させる奥義<END>
Causes an explosion by stirring up a cloud of dust<:LINE>
and making a spark with two swords.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B78BC)
// FF528
粉塵裂破衝<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B78A8)
// FF538
打ち上げた敵を神速突きで捕らえる奥義<END>
Throws and pierces an enemy with a quick stab.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B78A0)
// FF578
千裂虚光閃<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B788C)
// FF588
斬撃の真空波が三日月の軌跡を描く特技<END>
Special Skill: Slashes in the shape of a cresent moon.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7884)
// FF5C0
月閃光<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7870)
// FF5C8
突きがヒットすると、目前の敵をすり抜けて<LINE>
奥の敵に斬りかかる特技<END>
Special Skill: Slips past the enemy in front<LINE>
and hits the one in back.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7868)
// FF628
幻影刃<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7854)
// FF630
双剣を交互に四連撃の特技<END>
Special Skill: Performs a four-stroke attack with two swords.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B784C)
// FF668
双連撃<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7838)
// FF670
対空能力を持った二連斬りを繰り出す特技<END>
Performs a two-stroke attack that hits flying enemies.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7830)
// FF6A8
飛連斬<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B781C)
// FF6B0
神の住まう天空から割砕するは人。<LINE>
すなわち俺奥義<END>
The user of this technique brings death from the Heavens.<LINE>
That would be me.<END>
//This is a really weird translation, but I can't think of how to word it better.

#WRITE(ptr, $B7814)
// FF6F8
神空割砕人<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7800)
// FF708
あふれる気合を露骨に叩きつける<LINE>
爆烈奥義<END>
Pummels the enemy with overflowing zeal.<LINE>
Rage Technique<END>
//This is more of a guess.  I'm not 100% sure how 叩つける is used here, but generally it means "to beat/smash".

#WRITE(ptr, $B77F8)
// FF740
戦吼爆ッ破<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B77E4)
// FF750
低空回転体当たりでところかまわず<LINE>
吹き飛ばす迷惑奥義<END>
Sweeps away the enemy with a (low-altitude) body slam<LINE>
no matter where they are. Nuisance Skill()<END>
//Has anyone else translated 迷惑奥義?  Because yours is probably better...

#WRITE(ptr, $B77DC)
// FF7A0
空破特攻弾<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B77C8)
// FF7B0
振り下ろしから引き込み、突進で追いつめる<LINE>
前向き奥義<END>
Starts with a downward slash, then rushes the enemy.<LINE>
Progressive (maybe Offense) Technique<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B77C0)
// FF800
割破爆走撃<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B77AC)
// FF810
それはもう強力な振り下ろしで、大地を<LINE>
震撼させる特技<END>
Special Skill: Shakes the ground with a more powerful<LINE>
downward slash.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B77A4)
// FF858
爆灰鐘<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7790)
// FF860
空中から冷気の槍で敵を貫く特技<LINE>
敵の攻撃をかわしながら出すとステキ<END>
Special Skill: Strikes the enemy with an icy spear.<LINE>
Great to use while dodging the enemy's attack.<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7788)
// FF8B8
霧氷翔<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7774)
// FF8C0
貫いた敵を豪腕で振り上げる特技。命中率が低い<LINE>
のがなんだが敵の隊列を入れ替えるにはナイス<END>
Special Skill: Flings the affected enemy into the air.<LINE>
Has a low hit rate, but helps break up the enemy's ranks.<END>
 
#WRITE(ptr, $B776C)
// FF928
放墜鐘<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B7758)
// FF930
修行の成果で雷を呼び起こし、<LINE>
力を解放する特技<END>
Special Skill: Releases the power of thunder<LINE>
as a result of training.<END>
//Yeah, I know, I cut out a big chunk on this one. :/

#WRITE(ptr, $B7750)
// FF970
雷神招<END>

#WRITE(ptr, $B773C)
// FF978
漢の拳を交えた二連攻撃を行う特技<END>
Special Skill: A two-stroke punching attack.<END>
//What is "漢の拳"?  I couldn't find anything on it, so I just omitted it.  Is a martial arts term or something?

[Kyle Dunamis]

Some of the descriptions sound cool ^__^ Keep up the good work

This is the skill list on gfaqs.  I don't know how accurate or correct it is so take from it what you will.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/co..._of_destiny_ii_skills.txt

And thanks for crediting the creator...

[supersonic1453]

Sorry, I wasn't trying to say I made it or had anything to do with it.  I was just trying to bring it to his attention.

[Kiko]

Some of the descriptions sound cool ^__^ Keep up the good work

And thanks for crediting the creator...

I don't like the way skills are romanized in that FAQ, Chirihazan? Majin Senrestsushou?

KusanagiLord02 and Stahn Alvein's FAQ Did it alot better.

[Kyle Dunamis]

I don't like the way skills are romanized in that FAQ, Chirihazan? Majin Senrestsushou?

KusanagiLord02 and Stahn Alvein's FAQ Did it alot better.

I'm not surprised, they understand japanese MUCH better than I do and when I did that faq, I used the romanizations I read the most. I MIGHT re-update the faq with better romanizations, though.

[Kiko]

Soo, how exactly do we go about doing tech names? Try to use some of the words that are atleast grabbed from a direct translation? So Senkoushou would be something like Light Rush or Flashing Rush? And Senkoushoutsui (the extension) would be like.. ..*grabs Thesaurus* Shining Crash? Luminous Crash?

I mean we probably can't go with naming Souhajin as Green Destruction Blade >_>

[Cless]

I dunno. I dread that part the most because NOBODY will agree on a single set, since they're so ridiculously open to interpretation.

It's sad how sensitive the skill translation issue is with a number of fans.

I wish we could borrow Peter Garza on this issue and let him give us his "unofficial" interpretation and leave it at that. But that's impossible.

Few of these skills are in any US Tales games, so it's hard to leech them...

[Kiko]

I dunno. I dread that part the most because NOBODY will agree on a single set, since they're so ridiculously open to interpretation.

It's sad how sensitive the skill translation issue is with a number of fans.

I wish we could borrow Peter Garza on this issue and let him give us his "unofficial" interpretation and leave it at that. But that's impossible.

Few of these skills are in any US Tales games, so it's hard to leech them...

True..hm.

You could leave it as the very last thing and and release some sort of alternative version. One version that uses your/our very own translations and names (that remain faithful) and another one that just uses romaji because most people are used to that (myself included, but I don't mind either way =P). Though it's probably too much extra work.

I think fans are over sensitive because the job dejap did on the movenames in Phantasia. Some of them are just outright terrible. I think as long as we can stay true to the words we can grab from there and the looks of the move, it might work out? I don't see this project getting many Psion Bolts-esque horrible names =P

[Kikujiro]

IIRC, Cless talked about putting romanized named instead of each skill's katakana transcription. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyway Cless, I agree that it is kind of a sensitive subject. But as we will probably never agree on a full set, you should either decide of the names yourself (at least YOU will be okay with the names, and I mean, it is your damn right) or entrust this matter to someone who, in your opinion, could do a good job, while keeping an eye on what he is doing.

edit > By the way, it's been a while since I last came here, and bam, I find this whole community translation thing X_X Can I still post my comments or did you gather enough opinions?

[gyozilla]

All I really want to comment on about tech names is translating accurately FIRST and THEN you can interpret/localize however the hell you'd like. If something is translated incorrectly from the get-go, the localization is bound to get further and further away from what it really stands for. And after a while, you might as well just use your own creative inventions; you'd benefit far more from that.

People just throw the kanji into dictionaries and translate them one by one, without knowing that the meaning is often strung together, or the definition they use isn't appropriate. Like 剛招来 for example, being translated as like "Sturdy Invitation".

[Kajitani-Eizan]

Like 剛招来 for example, being translated as like "Sturdy Invitation".

o_O it's not something along those lines? i thought it was essentially something like "Strengthen", or "Power Up" (as in the verb, like what DBZ characters do). the english name (Coil) seems to come right from that...